tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8295741357281587791.post1871198485299460891..comments2019-07-17T03:41:15.620-07:00Comments on Linux Hater's Redux: Myths about LinuxAnti-Tuxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14184665169206392084noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8295741357281587791.post-48089565610022914722011-05-09T08:31:28.979-07:002011-05-09T08:31:28.979-07:00You are a total dumbass.. Linux has in only a coup...You are a total dumbass.. Linux has in only a couple of years taken over the mobile world.. Almost 40% of handsets are Android.. <br /><br />Linux servers serve 73% of all websites online.. I would hardly call that small peanuts now would you!!<br /><br />Linux server is so good that even microcrap use it.. Google Netcraft and then enter download.microsoft dot com and you will see.<br /><br />Linux is the ONLY desktop with a growing marketshare becuase Microcrap have just fallen below 90% for the 1st time ever.. Linux has google on board, Linux now has Yahoo on board aswell..<br /><br />Linux saves companies ££££££ because there are no licence fees to pay.<br /><br />Linux Mint is the most usable desktop there is for somebody coming from windows, all the main cross-platform programs are there, it boots straight off a cd or usb and you can be online in less than a minute watching youtube or listening to music, chatting on msn or whatever, it's all ready to go.. You can also edit your hard drives and move files around and partition from a live cd/usb.. You can then install it which takes minutes and provides more functionality than windows provides in 5 hours wasting time installing and setting it up.<br /><br />Don't you hate it when windows says.. The file is currently in use by another program! Doesn't happen in Linux.. <br /><br />91% of all the worlds supercomputers run Linux and in the top 500 supercomputer list, they are every computer in the top 10. Supercomputers run the world.<br /><br />People are flocking to linux in their droves as you just can't compete with free.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8295741357281587791.post-90501287065944767982009-03-13T04:05:00.000-07:002009-03-13T04:05:00.000-07:00"Ubuntu stops officially supporting its LTS releas..."Ubuntu stops officially supporting its LTS releases after five years. Even the community support on most distros does not last forever."<BR/><BR/>that is correct. <BR/><BR/>but if, for some strange reason, you would decide to stick with a particular release for e.g. 10 years, nobody prevents you from packaging security updates for it.<BR/><BR/>plus, in case of ubuntu, you can upgrade your current system for free.yOSHi314https://www.blogger.com/profile/15706093004889278501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8295741357281587791.post-52003398640764701782009-03-09T04:59:00.000-07:002009-03-09T04:59:00.000-07:00Still I think you are mostly a liar, and at the ve...<B>Still I think you are mostly a liar, and at the very least exagerate the issues you do have. Well that is when they are not complete fabrications</B><BR/>Is this supposed to be some sort of a fact? Do you have any evidence for this?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8295741357281587791.post-35974752748032735942009-03-08T16:32:00.000-07:002009-03-08T16:32:00.000-07:00No one doubts that you are having all sorts of pro...No one doubts that you are having all sorts of problems with windows. We do not run into similar issues. In our mind your repeated failure to make windows work properly says more about you then it does windows. Because, we don't ever have issues as severe as you.<BR/><BR/>Still I think you are mostly a liar, and at the very least exagerate the issues you do have. Well that is when they are not complete fabricationsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8295741357281587791.post-18325480768297091092009-03-08T03:36:00.000-07:002009-03-08T03:36:00.000-07:00I am sorry the means to seriously stuff something ...I am sorry the means to seriously stuff something up is not source Dependant. UAC that is a serious stuff up. <BR/><BR/>People binary patching into games another cause of serious stuff up. List is long how to serious stuff a OS up. Trust but verify need to be the rule. Problem is there are not enough test case systems in existence to verify everything. Linux is not alone with that problem.<BR/><BR/>Linux Standard Bases progress has been on time table. Ok lot of people would want a city built in a day. That is this less complexity than creating a standard from nothing for a OS.<BR/><BR/>Linux Hater's Redux have you ever put in a request for a better installer to anything.<BR/><BR/>Lots of people here like throwing rocks when standing in glass houses.oiaohmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04718208244445470383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8295741357281587791.post-76688957300969662352009-03-07T02:17:00.000-08:002009-03-07T02:17:00.000-08:00So boring.Lintards have been claiming that all Lin...So boring.<BR/><BR/>Lintards have been claiming that all Linux problems are <I>a myth and a thing of the past</I> for over the last ten years.<BR/><BR/>Give them another ten years, they'll still be saying the same. Poor delusional bastards.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8295741357281587791.post-5145084648618746982009-03-06T20:13:00.000-08:002009-03-06T20:13:00.000-08:00and, what is most important, security updates.Do y...<B>and, what is most important, security updates.</B><BR/><BR/>Do you think Linux is any different in this regard? Ubuntu stops officially supporting its LTS releases after five years. Even the community support on most distros does not last forever. Fedora Legacy stopped supporting all the Red Hat Linux versions in 2007. Sure, you have access to the source, but that does not always get you what you want. Leaving aside the fact that it is a bad idea for a sysadmin to be recompiling a production server, you cannot always get support for older versions. Most open source projects do not backport bugfixes and security updates to older versions; if you want those things, you have to update to the latest version and get all the latest features you don't need that might break something you do need. Sure, distros do backport somethings, but that only lasts a while.<BR/><BR/><B>of course is has. do you think linux would be better without LSB (and FHS too) ?</B><BR/><BR/>No, it hasn't been completely useless, but after 8 (and 15) years I would expect more progress than this.<BR/><BR/><B>thanks to it, we can have e.g. opera and acrobat reader working on almost any distribution following those specs, as long as the required libraries are available.</B><BR/><BR/>Yes, it is so wonderful to have a proprietary PDF reader (that doesn't seem to be all that better than the ones that come with Gnome & KDE) and a proprietary browser (that is marginally more useful than the open source ones). Of course the same functionality could have been achieved if they had just bundled all the libraries they needed. Even today, if you download Opera, you will see <A HREF="http://www.opera.com/browser/download/?os=linux-i386&ver=9.64&local=y" REL="nofollow">this page</A>. If you use Ubuntu, then you will have to fool around with importing it into Synaptic, etc. If you really want a sign of progress, imagine <B>A</B> Linux binary under the Windows and OSX binaries for most popular apps.Anti-Tuxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14184665169206392084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8295741357281587791.post-71166555516980261992009-03-06T16:55:00.000-08:002009-03-06T16:55:00.000-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Elzairhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14238151381801715569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8295741357281587791.post-5276210169032918042009-03-06T15:46:00.000-08:002009-03-06T15:46:00.000-08:00The best UI experience ive had with linux was a th...The best UI experience ive had with linux was a thing of my own design. I used samba to share the / directory, then used putty to get at it.<BR/><BR/>Then I did all my work from a windows box, because notepad.exe tends to be less quirky than linux editors. <BR/><BR/>That is the proper way to deal with and maintain linux.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8295741357281587791.post-81994801107184463822009-03-06T13:26:00.000-08:002009-03-06T13:26:00.000-08:00"You do realize that 'support' can mean more than ..."You do realize that 'support' can mean more than merely providing updates? It also entails troubleshooting, Q/A, etc. ." <BR/><BR/>and, what is most important, security updates. <BR/><BR/><BR/>who will give you security updates and core system bugfixes, when microsoft stops supporting the version of windows you use? you cannot have free support for that. <BR/><BR/>then again, microsoft was never too fast at addressing bugs in their systems, wasn't it?<BR/><BR/>"that is what LSB was created for.<BR/><BR/>Yes, and in its eight years of existence, it has been so successful in standardizing Linux."<BR/><BR/>of course is has. do you think linux would be better without LSB (and FHS too) ?<BR/><BR/>thanks to it, we can have e.g. opera and acrobat reader working on almost any distribution following those specs, as long as the required libraries are available.yOSHi314https://www.blogger.com/profile/15706093004889278501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8295741357281587791.post-8639345725064236152009-03-06T09:26:00.000-08:002009-03-06T09:26:00.000-08:00getting familiar with anything requires a bit of a...<B>getting familiar with anything requires a bit of an effort on human side. most of people used to windows are lazy and don't even want to try out new things. </B><BR/><BR/>Of course, a good number of people have gotten very familiar with Linux and eventually given up on it after they fully realized its limitations, so your 'familiarity' condition is not fully correct.<BR/><BR/><B>commercially-licensed qt 3 and qt 4 toolkits. oh, and a proprietary ERP system used where i work.</B><BR/><BR/>I wasn't asking what the last application you used, I was asking what was the last application the freetard who wrote that post used.<BR/><BR/><B>you should add "legally purchased" to the question, and keep waiting for windows users to answer you :]</B><BR/><BR/>That is irrelevant to the discussion.<BR/><BR/><B>this one is pretty funny when compared:</B><BR/><BR/>You do realize that 'support' can mean more than merely providing updates? It also entails troubleshooting, Q/A, etc. <BR/><BR/><B>where do you get free windows support, outside from microsoft?</B><BR/><BR/>If you really want to be a cheap skate, you can read about Windows problems on <A HREF="http://support.microsoft.com" REL="nofollow">Microsoft's support website</A>, and you can ask questions on the<A HREF="http://forums.techguy.org" REL="nofollow">TechGuy forums</A>. It is rather easy to get free Windows support that is of similar quality to the free Linux support.<BR/><BR/><B>so, why don't they turn to that free support you mentioned? this should help, right?<BR/></B><BR/><BR/>Like I said, support is about more than updates. You are trying to point out a contradiction where none exists.<BR/><BR/><B>that is what LSB was created for.</B><BR/><BR/>Yes, and in its eight years of existence, it has been <I>so</I> successful in standardizing Linux.Anti-Tuxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14184665169206392084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8295741357281587791.post-14143816916211022602009-03-06T07:20:00.000-08:002009-03-06T07:20:00.000-08:00"Moreover, once people become familiar with L..."Moreover, once people become familiar with Linux, they rarely want to revert to their previous operating system.<BR/><BR/>So why are all those netbooks being returned?"<BR/><BR/>you missed the key point here - "getting familiar".<BR/><BR/>getting familiar with anything requires a bit of an effort on human side. most of people used to windows are lazy and don't even want to try out new things. <BR/><BR/>so they didn't even bother and returned the netbooks. maybe some of them were a bit more curious, who knows.<BR/><BR/>to me, that mass return was bound to happen, sooner or later.<BR/><BR/>"WTF? Are you talking about Windows 95's TCP/IP stack? That was thirteen years ago!"<BR/><BR/>what if they mean something else? like mac os, that was based off bsd licensed code?<BR/><BR/>"What was the last commercial app you used?" <BR/><BR/>commercially-licensed qt 3 and qt 4 toolkits. oh, and a proprietary ERP system used where i work. <BR/><BR/>you should add "legally purchased" to the question, and keep waiting for windows users to answer you :]<BR/><BR/>" (4) it can operate on older hardware and reduce the need for buying new hardware<BR/><BR/>So can Windows 2000."<BR/><BR/>the difference is that win2k has no security updates anymore, and no driver updates. <BR/><BR/>this one is pretty funny when compared:<BR/>-- > "As mentioned before, you can get free support for Windows as well (with about the same quality). "<BR/><BR/>where do you get free windows support, outside from microsoft?<BR/><BR/>-- > "There are no forced upgrades on Windows either. Bill Gates doesn't point a gun to your head and order you to buy a new copy of Windows. Companies upgrade because their system is no longer supported."<BR/><BR/>so, why don't they turn to that free support you mentioned? this should help, right?<BR/><BR/>"They forget that this fragmentation makes it really fun for IHVs and ISVs to support Linux. Not to mention that the fragmentation makes technical support quite a challenge."<BR/><BR/>that is what LSB was created for.yOSHi314https://www.blogger.com/profile/15706093004889278501noreply@blogger.com